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Charatan Pipes Dating Websites

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I'd like to thank Alan Chestnutt of Reborn Briar like myself, user of pipesmokerunlimited forum for having helped me by reviewing the translation of this essay. For the translation I used the words 'stem' or 'mouthpiece' as perfect synonyms. If you have any question about the translation feel free to email me at mailto: I hope you'll enjoy the article. Mathias Acciai Dating of Charatans by Fabio Ferrara I have had the idea for a long time to publish on the web a collection of articles about dating and history of brands of pipes, especially English makes.

Therefore, I finally decided to start the exercise discussing the most difficult brand to date.. I say difficult and easy at the same time simply because Charatan, during its many mutations, has always left some unmistakable marks on its pipes; so unequivocal that dating does not prove a huge problem.

The difficulty, however, lies in the knowledge of the various eras, which are many and often create doubt among collectors. The various articles that have appeared in journals and around the web cause the rest, because they are often incomplete or contradictory, creating confusion among fans of the pipes. With this article, therefore, I will try to shed light, hoping to provide a useful reference tool for enthusiasts. I want to dedicate this first article to the newborn forum D: The sources In the past I have read many articles about dating Charatan's pipes.

I remember seeing years ago a beautiful site on the internet where there were also many examples of photos. Unfortunately I could not find it any more. Loring and various private documents.

The spark of inspiration for dating Charatans arrived one day a few years ago, while I met Mario Lubinski who had acquired a very huge stock of Charatan pipes from every era. I spent many days studying the pipes with the goal to acquire a couple of specimen pipes of each era. The study become serious and so I learned to distinguish every small detail between different pipes. I realized early on that the articles listed above were not exhaustive, and also showed inconsistencies and contradictions.

I noticed that there were a lot of particular details ex. Moreover I noticed that Charatan has never been a producer similar to other British factories. The very first comparison was represented by Dunhill, that had always produced pipes characterised by a maniacal desire for consistency and quality control.

Charatan appeared different. The imprint left by its various managements, until the '80s, was to commission the creation of new pipes to "master carvers" with individual characteristics in their work. The result has been a heterogeneous production, almost like an ensemble of hand made pipes, each one truly different. As a matter of fact, the year of the Dunhill take over, many of those masters decided to leave the factory in order to establish their own business.

Needless to say that such personalities, even during their time at Charatan, left many distinctive signs on their creations, creating a challenge for later enthusiasts to spot them. At that time I was in touch with many of these carvers in order to learn more about that. The actual challenge of Charatan collectors or enthusiasts is not really the dating which as you'll see from this article is fairly easy, once you understand the necessary classification on aspects of the various "eras" , but beyond that the ability to recognize the master's hand that created the Charatan pipe.

For collectors, a Charatan known to be Barry Jones would be gold I intend this article to be a work in progress and, you may have noticed, it is often added to.

The final goal is to be able to publish photos of the many freehand styles, reporting accurately as far as you can in a virtual context, as an example of an objective analysis should be done with the original pipe in hand , and not showing the reader a simple photo how to recognize the work of different "master carvers". Other interesting notes can be added about "micro-details" that can be traced back to changes in the eras.

Another interesting challenge is the study of the latter period. There is virtually no detailed literature on that, even though it encompasses at least 4 distinct eras! From a first Dunhill era dating where the pipe production continued in the original factory based in Grosvenor Street. What is curious about those eras of long and complex vicissitudes, almost everything that has been written about them usually only refer to them as "the French period"!

Nothing is said especially of the revival that started in the year , and the move of production of Charatans to Colin Fromm 's Invicta, recently acquired by Dunhill precisely for this revival project, that involves some of the brands owned.

The Invicta factory is located in Chatham. A bit of history Charatan was founded by Frederick Charatan in in London. Mr Charatan was an immigrant full of ambition who immediately attempted to create an elite product.

Frederick's production, that should be properly be named 'Charatan's Make' and not simply Charatan , had an immediate impact. This first era was from until , when Frederick decided to leave the factory to his son Rueben. Reuben continued to produce very high quality pipes for many years, as his father had before him.

He characterized the production by ceaselessly improving even the smallest detail of the pipes that were already considered an absolute reference point.

In the meantime the production had moved to Grosvenor Street. In Reuben died and his wife immediately decided to sell the company and it was purchased by Lane Limited. At the beginning Lane decided to leave everything unchanged concerning production and workers. The famous 'Double Comfort' stem was the only Lane innovation.

Things started to change in after Lane's acquisition of the Ben Wade brand and related machinery. Essentially Charatan acquired a brand, rather than a real pipe manufacturing business. Charatan took part in this operation too since some Danish freehands were displayed in its catalogue while the so called 'seconds' were marked Ben Wade. In mid Charatan was acquired from Lane by Dunhill. That obviously resulted in some major changes until , when Dunhill decided to shut down the historical Charatan factory in Grosvenor Street.

It is worth noting that the factory was in Forest Road and not in 32 St. Andrew Road, Walthamstow, where the Dunhill factory was located since In Dunhill sold Charatan to J. Russell and the production was moved to France. For many this is considered Charatan's dark period. This operation has to be viewed as Dunhill's goal to give a new life to an old brand of the past, and the production of Charatans, Invictas, Simmons, and Hardcastles is taken over by Colin Fromm in Invicta's site in Chatham.

This information leaked during a recent interview with Marc Burrows, head of Dunhill's shop in London's Jermyn Street, who claimed that recent Charatans from seem to be superior to those of the first Lane era!

To all this must be added the story of Barry Jones. Jones started his apprenticeship with Reuben Charatan during the 50s. After a period in the storage and briar curing division, he was introduced by Reuben, who really appreciated Jones' ideas, to the carving of pipes. In a short period Jones became a 'master carver' responsible for many free hands of this period. He put a 'Danish like' style to many creations and he still remained at Charatan even after Reuben's death.

He eventually left the company in I believe after the disappointing Dunhill acquisition and then moved to Upshall, or more correctly, to the Tilshead Pipe Co. Many collectors consider Jones's creations as the ultimate thus, for them, the era is seen as the most expressive time of the brand.

This makes the few Jones freehands even more precious. Jones has also given some detailed information about how to recognize his creations establishing a lot of interest among collectors.

Era identification For a proper dating of Charatan's pipes we need to target the various 'eras' and see if they are recognizable in the details of particular pipes. The company history and a precise study of the pipes, lead us to the following eras: Charatans are made in the French factory in St.

Claude by J. It is worth noting that during the second Lane era, after Ben Wade's acquisition, its machines were installed in the Charatan factory, revolutionizing the production of pipes, especially lower grades. Other were commissioned to outside factories. Most of these pipes went out with the Ben Wade brand but is possible to find some pipes marked Charatan that have been produced by someone else.

For sure Preben Holm was involved but there are some suspicions on other factories such as Willmer. Dating It is important that the dating operation is carried out on an original pipe. The first step on dating a Charatan is to carefully look to some details: From they use the 'Double Comfort' style still used today. By the way there are some saddle bits without the double comfort used in pipes that date after but these models are always characterized by a X in the place of the DC engraved after the shape number on the shank.

This means that if a pipe has a tapered mouthpiece instead of a double comfort one, it is definitely a pre-Lane pipe before While if a pipe has a normal saddle bit stem, it could belong to every era. Nevertheless the pipe is pre if the shape code does not include an X, and is a pipe from after if the X is engraved. Finally any pipe with the double comfort stem is definitely after Some differences are less obvious than others, however the glaring differences are detectable in 4 phases.

The CP till the is very fine, the C penetrates the P. From to the CP logo is more pronounced and the C penetrates the P. From approx. The X and the DC appear only on pipes after The engraving in script font 'Made by Hand -In-City of London' on three lines identifies pipes made between and Identification of a first era pipe Frederick's era, Example of a Frederick's era pipe I immediately point out that pipes of this era are very rare and it is very unlikely to come across a pipe from this time.

They can be distinguished from a pipe of the first era mainly because their larger size. Their characteristics are similar to the ones of the previous era. It was a line of pipes made from to approx. Example of a Rueben era pipe Example of the writing Chartan's Make Example of Underboar pipe Identification of a third era pipe First Lane era, Pipes of this period are quite common.

If the stem is not a double comfort but a saddle one, it is characterized by the letter X on the right of the shape code e.

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